Cenk Uygur over at the Young Turks had the interview of a lifetime. He just interviewed Bernie Sanders, and it was a mind-blower.
Today on The Young Turks Cenk Uygur interviewed Bernie Sanders and asked the question:
“Now, a lot of the people in the movement have decided that you are their leader, partly because you’re running for President, but you look at some recent polls of millennials, they have you by far the most popular politician; but they actually have you as more popular as a person they’d like to meet above Beyonce`, okay that’s a hell of a thing…
But you have convinced them that Hillary Clinton is the establishment candidate. If you were to lose, and the Democratic party comes to you and says take this movement that is full of energy and that is against the establishment, and make sure they vote for the establishment candidate, what do you say?”
Bernie’s answer was gold, and left things up in the air on whether he would back Hillary or go his own way…
Well.. what I say: Number one I’m not that big into being a “leader”… I’d much rather prefer to see a lot of leaders and a lot of grassroots activism.
Number two, what we do is together, as a nation .. as a growing movement is we say: “If we don’t win..” and by the way we are in this thing to win, please understand that. “What is the Democratic establishment gonna do for us?”
From this exchange we can surmise that there’s no guarantee that he will blindly back the Democratic Party’s candidate if we get nothing out of doing so.
Depending on how things look in July, an Independent run could be in the works. He’s said he probably wouldn’t consider it – but that was months ago.That was before this got messy.
It was before millions of people were disenfranchised in Arizona and likely will be in future contests. It was before Bill Clinton started showing up at polling places in Massachusetts and Illinois blocking traffic, and delaying voters from getting to the polls. The more people that are cast aside during this election, the more angry we as a movement get.. and the more angry Bernie gets..if it keeps going like this there will be a fever pitch where we all going to band together and “Bern down” the establishment together.
If Trump wins the nomination, it’s likely that Republicans might throw in a third party candidate, or if there’s a brokered convention and Trump loses even though he has a majority of the delegates – he may run as an Independent. If it’s Hillary Clinton facing two right wing candidates, Bernie would stand a lot better chance. Some are even saying that if it’s between Trump and Hillary that both candidates have such low favorability ratings that Bernie Sanders could still win against the both of them.
When asked whether he really believes that Hillary Clinton would keep any of her promises that she’s made since Iowa when she switched up her whole platform, he said basically that it’s very doubtful. You can see her thinking prematurely that she’s already won, and already she’s moving back to center on the issues.
People see her dishonesty, and only her die hard supporters don’t see through it.
Bernie quoted Tom Donahue head of the Chamber of Commerce who said: “Don’t worry what she said in the campaign, she’s just trying to match Bernie Sanders. If she’s elected, I think she’ll be okay on the TPP”.
Watch the full interview below (by the way the part about whether he’d back the establishment candidate or not is around the 16 minute mark).
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